File GTN 5/9/45 - Letters to and from the Hon. Edward Harbord (including draft replies)

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GTN 5/9/45


Letters to and from the Hon. Edward Harbord (including draft replies)


  • Oct 1820-May 1821 (Creation)

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Civil lawyer. MP for Yarmouth; 1806-1808. All Souls, Oxford and Doctors Commons.

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Born on 10 November 1781, in Albemarle Street, London.
Second son of Harbord Harbord, first Baron Suffield, and his wife, Mary, daughter and coheir of Sir Ralph Assheton, bt, of Middleton, Lancashire. Edward Harbord was born on 10 November 1781. He married Georgiana, daughter and co-heiress of George, second Lord Vernon, on 19 September 1809. She died on 30 September 1824. On 12 September 1826, Edward Harbord married Emily Harriott, youngest daughter of Evelyn Shipley, of Ettington Park, Warwickshire, and Longh Fea Castle, county Monaghan.
Edward Harbord was MP for Great Yarmouth (1806-12) and Shaftesbury (1820-1). He campaigned for better conditions in prisons, the abolition of slavery and the relaxation of game laws. Established Norfolk County Cricket Club.
He died on 6 July 1835, as a result of a fall on a horse.

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From; sub-bundle:- 1) Harbord to Stephen Lushington re decision to disassociate self from Cobbett and Cartwright, seeks advice: 2) 'Inhabitants of Middleton' to Harbord (Vernon House) re Harbord's recent visit to Middleton, his concern for its welfare, request for Lushington, Harbord, Cobbett and Cartwright to deliver petition to Queen, Cobbet's role in averting 'outright rebellion', Middelton's loyalty. 1 October 1820 and enclosing petition (19 September 1820): 3) [unsigned] to Harbord (Vernon House) requesting him to solicit persons listed. 4 Oct 1820: 4) Harbord's reply re Middleton address (petition), Lushington engaged for Queen, disassociates self from Cobbett's party, Bill of Pains and Penalties. 11 October 1820 [Bacon pp. 125-126]:
Correspondence between Harbord (Henbury House and Vernon House) and Amos Ogden (Fielding Row, Middleton) dated Nov 1820-February 1821 [Bacon pp. 130-131]:- Ogden to Harbord re Harbord's letter of 9 Nov [1820] (missing), regret about Cobbett's access to Harbord's letters, disagreement with Harbord on Cobbett, Ogden's views on Cobbett, aristocracy, poor, local authorities, parliamentary corruption, corn laws, Combination Acts, Bank of England, commodity prices, Cartwright 'venerable father of reform', choice of Cobbett and Cartwright to represent Middleton's deputation to Queen Caroline, saddened that Harbord ('Lord Suffield') refuses to be a representative, Cobbett's comments on Harbord's Shaftesbury seat, Ogden's view that 'independent gentlemen like you can improve House', Middleton people's wish for radical reform, hope that Harbord on their side, weavers present prospects-good, 'provision prices'-low. 30 November 1820 [Bacon p. 130]: Harbord re letter had earlier sent to Ogden, opinions expressed related to Cobbett not Cartwright, differences between Harbord and Cobbett over reform, criticism of Cobbett's methods, refutation of Cobbett's charges over alleged buying of Shaftesbury seat, prison reform, criminal code, police, Poor Laws, 'my radicalism'- public knowledge since 1818 Norwich Meeting, reform process-likely to be slow. 9 December 1820 [Bacon pp. 100, 130]: re explanation of reform principles puzzling to Ogden, aims, present 'bad government' education reform necessary to end society's evils, Cobbett's 'Political register', agricultural problems, warning to Ogden-'be peaceable and finally reasonable in your desires'.9 Jan 1821: Ogden re criminal code pamphlet, Cobbett and 'Political register', reform and benefits -'intolerable hardships….endured', aristocracy, silk trade, farmers, 'Peel's Bill' ['the elder' Peel's Act, 1819/(1st Bt)]-Chairman of cash payments committee], Commons' seats abuses. 9 Jan 1821: Harbord re return of letters (only meant for Ogden and friends), anxiety re first letter's contents being voted upon. 16 Jan 1821: re annoyance over unnecessary public exposure, non-return of letters, Commons-proper forum for debate (2 copy letters). 30 Jan 1821: Ogden's reply re Harbord's letters [dates given] not shown to committee, annoyance at Harbord's letter (16 Jan) requesting return, reform, need for aristocracy to act, Middleton trade-good, people-must 'regain their lost rights' 6 Feb: Harbord re reform, regrets mistake as wrote hastily and ideas made public, anxiety. 8 Feb 1821: re letters, Cobbett, 'reform…that it may be advanced speedily, effectivally, temperalily, wisely and beneficially for all ranks of society'. 12 Feb 1821; acknowledges return of all but one of letters, horror of contents being made public which clouded judgement. 13 Feb 1821; re return of letters.nd.
Correspondence between Harbord and James Scholes (Stakehill, Thornham, nr Middleton, S.E. Lancs.) dated Feb-[undated] 1821 and enclosed together: sub- bundle 1) Scholes re Address to Queen, choice of Cobbett and Cartwright, Ogden overruled, Lord Grosvenor's speech pending her trial, Stakehill leasehold farmers, [Theophilus] Smith, evils in church and state, Biblical quotes and parallels, Queen and persecution, National Debt, parliamentary reform, [Peterloo events], population growth and Malthus, 'Political register', 'Peel's bill' [Peel's Act 1819] paper note circulation, his becoming 'firm radical' following Peterloo meeting, Scholes's family-tenants for 100 years of Harbord's family [Asshetons and Suffields]. 15 February 1821: 2) Harbord's reply (Vernon House) re Scholes' comments on Lord Grosvenor, satisfaction at Middleton reformers opinion of self, Criminal Code, prison discipline-his main on-going concern. 20 Feb 1821: 3) Scholes re Harbord's walking in 'so exalted a sphere', inclusion of Cobbett and Cartwright in presentation of address to Queen, praise of their work, Harbord's support of Middleton reformers. nd:
Nicholas Whitworth (Manchester) to Harbord (Vernon House) re enclosed petition for Harbord (addressed 'Lord Suffield') to forward to [John Cam] Hobhouse, Peterloo massacre and wounded, writer's figures of killed and wounded. 5 May 1821: William Butterworth (Thornham, Middleton) re enclosed petition for Harbord to present [on Peterloo], and request for copies be given to Lushington and [Sir Francis] Burdett, with added note by Amos Ogden. 11 May 1821.

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Created 07/07/2009 by Droip. Modified 08/08/2019 by Droip.


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